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Trump has repeatedly denied any involvement in or knowledge of Epstein’s crimes, despite past social connections between the two. He maintains that they had a falling out long before Epstein’s 2008 conviction for soliciting a minor.
Collins referenced the inclusion of Elon Musk and current Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick in the documents—something Trump waved off as insignificant, claiming there were no major headlines about them. She also pressed him on recent redactions in the files, which some Epstein survivors have criticized as a lack of transparency.
As she began asking, “What would you say to survivors—” Trump abruptly cut her off.
“You are so bad. You know, you are the worst reporter,” Trump said. “No wonder CNN has no ratings because of people like you.”
He continued, “I’ve known you for ten years. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a smile on your face. You know why you’re not smiling? Because you know you’re not telling the truth.”
Collins later addressed the exchange on her CNN program The Source, replaying the footage and offering her perspective.